10 Reasons Ukraine is Dead

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By Graham Phillips

Hard as it is to say, sad as it is for those of us who liked Ukraine, as I liked Ukraine – over 2 years living there pre-war, it was a country I was very fond of – but post-Euromaidan, Ukraine is dead. Here’s why –

1. If there’s no law, it’s not a country, it’s a failed state – the recent wave of killings of anyone perceived to be ‘anti-regime’ in Ukraine, accompanied by not only resounding failure to investigate, but actually official endorsement of those responsible – the fact that the police in Ukraine defer to terrorist group Pravy Sektor. Just the start of a long list. There’s no law whatsoever in post-Euromaidan Ukraine.

2. If there’s no democracy, it’s not a country. It’s a banana state. On February 22nd, 2014, Euromaidan kicked out not only a democratically-elected president, but a democratically-elected government. It waited three months before holding elections for a new president, 8 months before parliamentary. By that time, all too late, the extremist dmitryyaroshelement had already taken a stake way beyond electoral control – neo-Nazi party Svoboda, despite scoring less than 5% in the parliamentary elections, still vocally sit in Ukraine’s parliament, regularly send fighters to the front. Leader of neo-Nazi terrorist group Pravy Sektor Dmitry Yarosh, left, who polled less than 1% in the presidential election, on Interpol’s wanted list, is now an official aide to to the Ukrainian military.

3. There will never be peace in Ukraine. There’s now a history, and future, of violent revolution. Maidan set the precedent, installed its president in Ukraine by violent revolution. Yet Maidan was comprised of different factions, far from all of whom support Nazi Azov1the president. In fact Ukrainian neo-Nazi Azov Battalion (right) have frequently stated their intention for a ‘new Maidan’ and a desire to ‘bring the fight from Donbass to Kiev‘. Even the generally pro-Kiev Moscow Times has written of the likelihood of another Maidan.

Maidan set the terms for the institutionalised demolition of democracy in Ukraine – a couple of thousand extremists, and a mass easily gulled by patriotic slogans, in central Kiev can, violently, topple any government they want. Ukraine’s president Poroshenko knows it, does everything he can to appease the radicals. Every objective person knows that whatever, there will never be peace in post-Euromaidan Ukraine.

4. Crimea, once the golden territory of the land, held a referendum to vote out of CrimeaUkraine, will never return to Ukraine, even Germany’s leader Angela Merkel admitted that with her recent statement of ‘we won’t forget it‘ (but we won’t do anything about it).

Once a country loses a part of its territory, it’s never the same country.

5. The Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, are never returning. Ukrainian forces haven’t taken any territory there since July of 2014, they’ve only lost territory. DPR and LPR forces have consolidated lines, and if there is movement, it will only be Fullscreen capture 18042015 231746.bmpto take more of Donbass – currently they have around 1/3 of the region which once produced 80% of all Ukraine’s coal, but from which the DPR and LPR do not supply to Ukraine any more, while industrial production in the rest of former industrial heartland Donbass has mostly ground to a halt.

The DPR and LPR have held a referendum, and election, to vote themselves out of Ukraine. The majority of those in Ukraine-occupied Donbass voted to secede. Meanwhile those all over Ukraine are becoming both less concerned with the ‘retaking’ of DPR and LPR territory, and more ambivalent towards Ukraine due to 6. –

6. Normal life is almost impossible in Ukraine. Inflation in Ukraine is at 272%, the Fullscreen capture 19042015 102426.bmphryvnia’s worth at less than 40% of what it was. Inflation has rocketed, salaries have collapsed, businesses across Ukraine have closed. In short, people don’t have any money in Ukraine anymore – sales of new cars down 67% year-on-year – production of cars down 96%, 46 banks declared insolvent in the last year.

As for the eternal thorn in Ukraine’s side, corruption, one which apparently became so pressing one of the defining aims of Maidan was to extricate it – it’s even worse than it was before.

UkraineAnd for Ukrainian soldiers killed in action in Donbass, sources were estimating that at over 20,000 last August. I’ve seen the bodies of dozens of Ukrainian soldiers, how many of those were identified, fewer than a quarter. Across Ukraine – extreme poverty, hyper-inflation, unemployment, and relatives who left, or were mobilised, to fight in Donbass, disappeared forever, whose fate will never be known. There’s no normal in Ukraine anymore.

7. Ukraine’s debt is over $80 billion – set to hit $100 billion soon, 100% and rising of a sinking GDP. An agreed recent IMF bailout programme of $17,5 billion would only scratch the surface. Ukraine’s economy shrunk Ukraine business7.5%, by conservative estimates, in 2014. Estimates for this year range from 6% to over 20%. European governments pledge support, meanwhile European businesses withdraw on mass, hundreds have already left the Ukrainian market, most of the 600 German firms operating in Ukraine conducting an audit about withdrawing from the market.

Trade with the country which was Ukraine’s leading export and import parter by far, Russia, understandably decimated, Ukraine’s economy is stricken, and only going down.

8. The whole meaning of ‘Ukraine’ has changed – just look at a Google of Ukraine from 2011, 2012 and 2015 –

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Ukraine now is associated with blood, death, war. There’s blood associated with the Ukrainian flag from its military shootings in Odessa to Mariupol, to its military relentlessly shelling civilian areas of Donbass. The perception, identity, the very definition of ‘Ukraine’ has changed forever.

9. There’s no one who could make Ukraine one again. There’s no political figure who can unite the former country. No one elected or placed in Kiev could ever win the support of those regions which have broken away, by the very fact of their being connected to Kiev. No political figure would ever be elected in those seceded regions on a ‘united Ukraine’ platform.

UkraineThere’s simply no one who can make Ukraine one again.

10. There will be a ‘Ukraine’, whatever that is, in future. But the ‘Ukraine’, to some simply ‘the Ukraine’ is finished. It’s dead. The sooner those pro-Ukraine accept that, the more lives will be saved, the quicker they can find what, where, ‘Ukraine’ is, after all, and start to build that, rather than destroy the former Ukraine.

31 thoughts on “10 Reasons Ukraine is Dead”

  1. Looks like a good analysis of the situation.
    Slight problem of what to call this new entity to the west of DNR/LNR.
    I would have thought that DNR, LNR, and Crimea were all logically part of “Ukraine” (insofar as it makes sense anyway).
    And the bit that is now without them is not so much “Ukraine” as more “rump Ukraine”. How does Kiev continue functioning without its mining/industrial base? Capital of a kitchen garden?

    And I wonder at the idea of a new maidan done by the fascists.
    I would guess that in rump Ukr the power is in the hands of the warmongers (with continuing support from nato) but that most of the population are strongly (though secretly) very unenthusiastic about the warmongers. Even though they are afraid of speaking out against the misinfo, I suspect that a lot of them are well aware of the manipulations and abuses (Maidan, Odessa, “ATO”, mh17). They will now be dissillusioned against the silly notion of being befriended by the Western powers.

    No unifying leader? Lech Walensa was a working class electrician before the Polish revolution.

    How does a regime of terror end? Hitler’s of course ended in the battle of Berlin. Stalin’s regime gradually thawed over decades. Any other historical suggestions?

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  2. And really, most of the damage was done with – see nuland’s remarks – and after, US Govt involvement – facilitated ‘regime change’ as obummer admitted this year, but obviously not using those words, yet actions speak louder than words; just about everything has got worse. DPR & LPR are de facto independent states, regardless of what the idiotic Western Governments say, and even poroshenko is treating them like that, with ‘border’ controls; stopping the payment of pensions etc (although with regard to the latter, it could be argued the Government is short on funds, i.e short on money due to wasting it on weapons, if not actually siphoning it off).
    It’s going to get really interesting from here on out, especially with the price increases filtering through from this month.
    Graham, what’s the latest on your multiple visa, i.e. when are you going to the Donbass?

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    1. “obummer”.

      It would be appreciated if you could spell Obomber’s name correctly. You should have more respect for a Nobel War Prize laureate.

      “when are you going to the Donbass?”

      Wouldn’t it be best to wait for the Donbass Batallion to get there first?

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  3. Dear Graham,

    I agree with you that Ukraine is dead. I don’t agree with you that it was a ‘revolution’. It wasn’t a ‘revolution’ sorry. It was a government ‘overthrow’ or ‘coup d’état’, a very violent one. By definition those 2 words are not the same.

    ‘Revolution’ can be applied to something like changes of social order. Non-violent or violent. For example it was monarchy, now it is republic state. Or it was monarchy, now it is communism.

    ‘Overthrow’ or ‘coup d’état’ can be applied to changes inside already existing social order. So if inside monarchy somebody kills a king and comes to power, that is ‘overthrow’ ‘coup d’état’.

    In Ukraine people came to power by ‘violent overthrow’. Social order wasn’t changed.

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  4. I thought that Goblin video there is a great explanation though if I remember correctly it gets a bit carried away with Russo nationalism at the end.

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  5. The Ukraine we knew before is really dead but now there’s another Ukraine that’s been dead and then revived. You know this sometimes happens, someone dies then there is a piece of voodoo and the dead man is alive again. It’s normally called a zombie. Zombie Ukraine with a hunger for human flesh.

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  6. There is an element you don’t want to see: the non-donbas UA has more nation sentiment than ever, patriotism, flags everywhere I never saw since football championship. Thanks to ruSian agression and donbass breakaway. The bulk of the world goes in solidarity with ua. Yes economy is on the floor etc corruption blabla (as if in Russia is much better xD). Mr Graham if you are no happy leaving here please leave ,there won’t be Trauer parades )))

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    1. Pepito, you mistake the superficial show for the underlying reality. Of course there’s this prominent “patriotism”, same as per Shostakovitch saying about pretending to be happy. It doesn’t mean a thing about what people are really thinking, those without the suppressive guns in their hands at least. The bulk of the world’s corrupt politicians and crapppy media goes in solidarity with the kiev crooks. The bulk of the much larger anyone who follows the internet most definitely doesn’t.

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      1. Hi Dobb
        Talking aobut ” pretending to be happy” , Peter Pomerantsev speaks volumes about it.
        Its ok, Donbass made his choice, in a bloody way. Good luck getting support from RU and “strategic alliances” with Osetia and unrecognized statii. The rest of UA, and thats is my point, is more united than EVER and we choose the other direction, “europe” or “not russia”. Yes US, so what ? who is russia to tel UA with whom to allign or lick-ass ? NATO ? why not ? Souverain state does whatever they want.

        We can live like the 2 Koreas no problem

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    2. Actually for the politicians and media it is not just corruption. Prominent people who stand against the capitalist military industrial complex tend to get accidentally killed as per several previous presidents of the land of the freely fooled. Every western “leader” understands this.

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    3. It’s the corrupt Western Governments which support Ukraine; the free thinking Western public recognise Ukraine (minus the Donbass) as a STILL corrupt fascist, warmongering murdering attacker, and support the Donbass people instead. You will NEVER have right on your side, nor the high moral ground and, as you are clearly a zombie, you deserve poverty and enslavement. Do NOT be so stupid to think the US Government REALLY wants to help the Ukrainian people, they want to STEAL from them if they can, otherwise buy up Ukrainian assets on the cheap because of the deliberately planned devaluation of the hryvnia.

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      1. I think Pepito is suffering from the same confused perception as was the Ukr guy who was absolutely insistent that they had the swastika because it’s a peace symbol and ditto the Wolfsangel. “Stockholm syndrome” or similar. Whether “Professor” Timothy Garton-Trash actually believes the rubbish he writes is more debatable.

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      2. Whether “Professor” Timothy Garton-Trash actually believes the rubbish he writes is more debatable.
        – But his readers certainly don’t!

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  7. >”and we choose the other direction, “europe” ”

    You seriously think Ukr is going to someday join “europe” when they can barely accommodate Greece already?

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    1. Dear Mr Sam, Your highly informative comment has resolutely persuaded me to recognising that there is an evil warmongering dictator in control in the Kremlin. And I’m sure the same applies to everyone else reading it. However, it was rather long. If you could make your future comments about four sentences shorter that would be even more effective.

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  8. I think that every people have what they deserve and the ukraines as well.
    I’ve been once over there and, I’m sorry to say, the most intersting thing I saw, it was Prypiat…maybe because nobody lives there.

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